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[wayleehan]

Are forums not a place where individuals can go to express their opinions? If you don't like something stated in a forum, you have a chance to openly express your opinion or you can ignore it and move on. So, is it right for "Administrators" of a forum that have opposing views, to prevent others from expressing their opinions and sharing information with others?? Not only that, but the "Administrator" getting in a last shot before closing a forum! Of course I'm talking about "Democrat-Reporter Reaching New Lows" -- If it's off topic, the "Administrator" should create a new topic associated with what it branched into and allow people to discuss it in a new forum. BUT since it's not what the "Administrator" and a few others want to hear about, they want it closed. NOT COOL!! There was nothing wrong with what was being said in that forum!!

If you want this website to be successful, you have to realize that because you don't agree with what's being said, you can't control what other's opinions are!! You don't want to start a reputation for only talking about the topics that you like or only those that agree with the way you feel can enter the website. It won't last long if that's what starts to happen!! But, of course, it's your website and you can choose what to do with it!!

[dave]

Originally posted by wayleehan
If you want this website to be successful, you have to realize that because you don't agree with what's being said, you can't control what other's opinions are!! You don't want to start a reputation for only talking about the topics that you like or only those that agree with the way you feel can enter the website.

Thanks for the advice. A couple of things.

First, I never censored you, nor did I attempt to control what it is you have to say. I closed the thread simply because after 5 pages of posts you were just repeating youself to keep the thread active. I gave you the last word a week ago and you felt the need to continue posting to the thread after everyone else had moved on. The original thread was my thread, the posting had gone way off-topic, and I felt it needed to end.

Second, I take offense at you making the notion myself or any of the admins here are attempting to "prevent others from expressing their opinions and sharing information with others". We built this site with the purpose of free speech and open dialogue in the community. We have never prevented someone from expressing their opinion, regardless of what it was. We've taken more heat than most know about because we refuse to moderate or censor posts made by members, no matter how unpopular they may be. The day we sell out just to make the masses happy is the day we kill this website.

If you feel you haven't gotten all your information, opinions, etc out on an issue, start your own thread. I've said what I have to say on the matter. Or, if you feel to "censored" here, send your opinions to the paper.

[wayleehan]

Originally posted by dave
I gave you the last word a week ago and you felt the need to continue posting to the thread after everyone else had moved on. The original thread was my thread, the posting had gone way off-topic, and I felt it needed to end.

I stated in an earlier post on that topic that I was going to to be looking for more information from other sources and would post it as I found it. I happened to come across that and decided to post it as I said I would. Who cares if "everyone else" had moved on! That doesn't mean that "No one was interested," as you said. How can you can speak for "everyone else"? That's what these forums are all about right!? When you close a forum just because you're tired of hearing about it, that's what I'm talking about whenI said what I did about preventing others from expressing their opinions and sharing information with others. The way that you put it, you had heard enough about it so you ended it.

You seem to be very bitter about that topic and for the things that some of us have said. Not exactly sure why, but I'm sure you have your reasons. Nevertheless, you could have at least moved the forum to another category or split it up since it was still active... you didn't give any time for anyone else to have a chance to reply. You have the controls in your hands for the website - take a look from the other side of things and maybe you'll be able to see it like I saw it!

[LPL]

man give it a rest! you don't have to press your way of thinking on everyone else wayleehan!

[rob]

And Wayleehan said I had "issues".Somebody please mail this guy some tissue.

[Roxanne]

Dave was right to stop that thread. There is no point in beating a dead horse, and there is no need to try to pick it up again here. Everybody on this site knows how you feel about this, Wayleehan. We're not going to change your mind. I accept that. However, you are not going to change the vast majority of people's minds either, so please just LET IT GO!

[Jeff]

There you have it Wayleen. We are not trying to cencor anything that anyone has to say. Even if that opinion is different than our own opininons. Dave closed the thread because it was becoming VERY repetitive. The same thoughts and ideas were being passed back and forth for a couple of pages, and was becoming pointless.

Obviously several others agree with the decision to close the thread (see comments above). Let it go, everyone here knows how you feel about the topic, there is no sense in you trying to convince everyone else to agree with you. I hope to se you post on many more things to come, because it is ALWAYS good to hear all sides of an argument.

[wayleehan]

Originally posted by rob
And Wayleehan said I had "issues".Somebody please mail this guy some tissue.

Oh yeah... just the person I would want to vote for to be the next Mayor of Demopolis! Hopefully this wouldn't be how you would handle things in a council meeting!

As for everyone else, you are entitled to your opinions. But it's because you don't like what you are seeing and afraid of finding out that truth that you get so upset about it. I'm not trying to impose "my way of thinking" on everyone else, but simply sharing information about something that many people don't know about. Jeff spoke about the source of the information I had initially provided so I provided more information from unbiased sources, which said the same things. I'll lay off it for now (at least on this website) as most of you are obviously set on believing everything the history books tell you and not open to looking into the information yourselves... exactly what the media and the government wants to happen!

[Roxanne]

Wayleehan said:

"most of you are obviously set on believing everything the history books tell you and not open to looking into the information yourselves... exactly what the media and the government wants to happen!"

I take extraordinary offense to this statement. I have two master's degrees and my level of intelligence is quite high. Even, if I had no advanced degrees, however, I would still know how to think for myself. I don't agree with ANYONE about everything, and I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with me. I have always been careful to disagree very politely on these boards. In this case, however, I don't feel like being polite. Wayleehan, you have NO RIGHT to tell us we don't think for ourselves. I would never say what I am about to if you had not opened yourself up for it: YOUR IGNORANCE IS ASTONISHING! Well, I guess that actually IS a little more polite than what I'd actually like to say. There is no need in lowering oneself.

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[Roxanne]

Sorry, I caught a typo (comma splice) in my previous post. That wouldn't really matter if I had not been trying to make a point to Wayleehan that I am an intelligent person who can think for herself. The thing I have really enjoyed about this board is that there are so many free thinkers here. It is very stimulating from an intellectual perspective. I hope we will all continue to think and share. I'm sorry if I was rude to Wayleehan, but I can't stand someone telling me that I don't think for myself. My thinking skills are excellent, but my typing skills fall far short of the mark.

[rob]

What does me being tired of hearing you cry about everything you can't control have to do with my upcoming election?NOTHING!Everyone that knows me know that I rarely hold my tongue for anyone.Even if elected,I'm not going to walk on eggshells for anyone.

[dhsmom]

I disagree with any forum that allows people to talk about others without owning up to what they say. I personally tried to contact demop pop and discuss the comments he made but he is afraid to identify who he is. I think a forum is a coward's way of letting out the worst of an individual.

[wayleehan]

Roxanne, it's really not a matter of you agreeing with me or not. Your morals are your concern, not mine (unless they directly affect me by your actions).

~~To recall why I feel this way is, why should I have to have a day off of work (National holiday) for the celebration of a man that I feel shouldn't be celebrated because of who he was as a whole, as a person, and that some of the things he's done are being put in a closet so people will not know about them. Again, I would have no problem with a holiday celebrating civil rights, but because of the things I've learned about him, I'm opposed to him having his own holiday. That's my deal (although I know you guys are sick of hearing it already) ~~

I'm not trying to get you to agree with me, but more so sharing information, as I've said before, that many people are not aware of. Whether you want to believe that information or continue believing what you already know is up to you. I don't expect you to believe the information that I share, as I am weary of it as well, but it's something that I'm still looking into and for your own benefit, I hope you would do the same. I would like to know if all of the things that I've come across are true or not and if I find that they are proven to be true, then I'm sure there will be a much different opinion of him by the general public than there is today. Also Roxanne, I'm not bashing you and that message was not directed to you, as "most of you" doesn't have to include YOU!

ROB, what kind of politician are you!?!?!? Your comment, "What does me being tired of hearing you cry about everything you can't control..." ---- is that what you'll tell everyone that comes to the Mayor's office if you were to be elected?? There's nothing they you do about it and I'm tired of hearing you cry!
No tears in my eyes buddy!! No one can change anything if they are shot down by the leaders that they have chosen to lead them! You're going to have to learn a little about that!!

[demop pop]

Yes, I chose not to reveal my name to dhs mom. Not b/c I am a coward or afraid but b/c she wouldn't know me.

[dave]

Originally posted by dhsmom
I disagree with any forum that allows people to talk about others without owning up to what they say. I personally tried to contact demop pop and discuss the comments he made but he is afraid to identify who he is. I think a forum is a coward's way of letting out the worst of an individual.

Was that about the "rumor into a raise" thread? I think we ALL would like to hear your thoughts on that subject (at least I would anyway).

[dhsmom]

A forum is not the place where such information should be given out. Coach Fran stirred up a controversy when he didn't tell his players first. If Coach Goodwin did ever decide to leave, he would tell his coaches and players first, and not a newspaper or forum. I prefer not to reveal personal information on a forum either. However, the accusations made by demop pop about the situation being "RUMOR" is false. Sylacauga is our birth place and they would love to have us back home, but for now Demopolis is our home. . . much to many disappointed people. I stand by my earlier comment, people misuse a forum. They should be MADE to identify themselves so that they own up to what they say. God Bless you all and have a great weekend.

[rob]

Wayleehan,I would probably worry about what you've said about me if you knew me,but you don't.I said that I was tried of YOU,and from what I've seen on this site I'm not alone.As far as what kind of politician I am,well that's simple,I'm not.I don't call myself a democrat or a republican,and I've never held a public seat in any office,but I do know what I think is right for the city of Demopolis.

[wayleehan]

Rob, a little advice: DON'T RUN FOR MAYOR! :no:


I think forums are a place where people can discuss things without having to give their name. The person behind a comment means nothing so long as the comments are true or if they are simply stating their opinion about something. All you are doing by making people give their name is developing your own opinion about a person which could end up causing problems, which is not the intent of forums.

[LPL]

could you give it a rest, everybody is tired of your constent complaining ! ROB FOR MAYOR !

[wayleehan]

:haha:

[dave]

I don't think Rob would lose many votes by disagreeing with your views on MLK Wayleehan. I personally appreciate someone that's attempting public office and not afraid to voice a real opinion, instead of skating the middle in an attempt to make all sides like him/her.

[rob]

Thanks,Dave.

[Roxanne]

Roxanne, it's really not a matter of you agreeing with me or not. Your morals are your concern, not mine (unless they directly affect me by your actions).

Wayleehan, my morals are based on Jesus Christ. I am a devout, born-again Christian, and I'd hold my morals up against yours any time. I agree that the things you say Dr. King did are despicable things (IF he did them). However, as a Christian, I know I am saved by grace, and I am so grateful that we don't have to be perfect because Jesus is perfect for us. I do not think MLK was a saint. I know he had human failings, just as we all do. But he does deserve this holiday because he was the spiritual leader of the civil rights movement. I truly see the MLK holiday as a holiday for all the strides made in civil rights. Would you rather the holiday honored Malcolm X or Louis Farrakhan? You do seem to be trying to change the opinion of others, whether you claim to be doing this or not.

[Bocephus]

LETS WHIP THIS DEAD HORSE SOME MORE!!!! When the holiday first started it was also Robert E. Lee's birthday.
Celebrate for whoever or whatever you want.Everybody ,well most, get one more paid day off. HOORAY!!!