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mmcd3182
08-12-2006, 10:57 AM
WORLD TRADE CENTER
U.S. Release Date: August 9, 2006
Distributor: Paramount
Director: Oliver Stone
Cast: Nicolas Cage, Maria Bello, Maggie Gyllenhaal
Running Time: 2 hours and 5 minutes
MPAA Rating: PG-13 (intense and emotional content, some disturbing images and language)

9/11 Drama is History in Non-Essentials
by Scott Holleran

Oliver Stone makes the worst attack in American history seem practically humdrum in World Trade Center, his take on the darkest day--so far--in this undeclared war between radical Islam and the West.

Omitting any explicit reference to the enemy's philosophy, Islam, like this year's other plainly titled 9/11 movie, United 93, Stone reconstructs the attack from the narrow perspective of the folks next door. The result is inconsequential.

For the most part, those who worked in the Twin Towers, a vital nerve center of the nation's capitalist economy (who were targeted and slaughtered by jihad Moslems) are unseen. Stone's lens is transfixed on a couple of cops who were trapped after the skyscrapers collapsed.

It's like watching a movie about Pearl Harbor focused on survivors without reference to the Japanese or the U.S.S. Arizona, a sort of under-dramatized history in non-essential terms. To accept Stone's version, one must accept that 9/11 was a terrible day but not that terrible a day. In fact, Stone submits that September 11, 2001, represents "a lot of good."
The hell it does. World Trade Center is like one of those Holocaust movies where one person makes it out alive (Life is Beautiful comes to mind) presumably proving that the good is possible even in the worst of circumstances. This is the purpose of Stone's self-conscious follow-up to Alexander: to make us feel good about the worst day of our lives.

Using his New Yorker's knowledge to recreate lower Manhattan and the title's two-towered property, Stone capably sets the mood and he elicits good performances from the central cast. Whether the pair of Port Authority policemen played by Nicolas Cage and Michael Pena are driving into work while listening to country and western music or their wives (Maria Bello and Maggie Gyllenhaal) are pining for their endangered husbands, World Trade Center is generally realistic.

But given the magnitude of the atrocity (and this is not intended to denigrate the real heroism on that day) the scale is too small.

The two profiled policemen are decent and honorable. After news trickles in about an unclear initial catastrophe at the Twin Towers, Cage's higher-ranking cop dispatches his men, urging them to protect themselves. When they enter the Twin Towers to execute rescue operations, it is an eerie, sickening scene (and we know reality was much worse).

They wander into the World Trade Center without a plan and, while this may be factually accurate, it opens the long, slow and, frankly, boring process of two cops caught in the crossfire. The buildings crumble in a rumbling shudder and, as Cage and Pena lay buried in the rubble, reminiscing about wives and kids in TV movie mode, Stone treats their common lives as a reason to celebrate.

Having been at ground zero or seen it on live television, we are in no mood. These lives on this day in that context hold interest only as they relate to the murder of 3,000 people. Stone romanticizes the rescue at the expense of recognizing the staggering loss.

The cast is fine. Gyllenhaal at the drugstore and Bello at the hospital behave exactly like someone braced for news of a loved one's death, and Cage and Pena work well considering they spend most of the time in half-darkness, yet it amounts to nothing much. Finding the good in mass murder is a metaphysical lie. It feels like grave dancing.

Most of World Trade Center is the men laying in reactive wait as they shift, writhe, talk and praise the Lord. Sadly, in the aftermath of an attack launched by religious warriors declaring that God is great, nearly every character becomes more religious. Hit by religious fundamentalists, Oliver Stone's infidels submit and choose faith.

This obsession with recreating 9/11 in primitive terms-- i.e., anti-philosophical, without regard to the attack's meaning-- echoes the tenor of our times. World Trade Center shows that Stone is not a rebel. He is the quintessential conservative, praying on his knees with his head buried in the sand, insisting that apocalypse has an upside.


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I think the movie will probably see initial success, but then once the word gets out about how bad it is -- no one will go see it... and Nicholas Cage... is probably going to make me laugh during the movie... so I might just better wait till it comes to DVD. I don't want to get beat up by some idiots for laughing during a movie.
Are you going to see it -- what do you think about doing a movie about this already?

trezhamayn
08-12-2006, 10:59 AM
I think the movie will fall just like the towers did...what a waste of money
hmm, maybe I should write some more...I think it's going to be horrible because
1.) I don't like Oliver Stone movies
2.) Nicholas Cage is a mongoloid and can't act his way out of a nutsack
3.) The movie doesn't interest me

mmcd3182
08-12-2006, 11:39 AM
ok... despite those comments... any of you going to see it?

dave
08-12-2006, 14:00 PM
I think the reason these films aren't focusing on the larger picture (war on terror) is because it's still going on. For most movies, you have to have some kind of ending, and focusing on terrorists in a non-fiction movie would be basically replaying the news. Perhaps Stone is trying to recapture the emotion and heroism the nation felt as these people at the towers that day struggled to survive.

mmcd3182
08-12-2006, 14:34 PM
Maybe Oliver stone should have waited another 20 years before doing this movie.... any news on where the money the movie is making is going to go?

If he isn't donating ALL proceeds to the families of the WTC attacks.. then he's just whoring out the whole thing. And the families of those involved should be really upset that he's making money off the suicides and murders of their family members.

dillybar
08-12-2006, 15:01 PM
I think you two should become film critics and get back to us AFTER viewing.

mmcd3182
08-12-2006, 15:03 PM
I think you two should become film critics and get back to us AFTER viewing.

I don't think I'm going to watch it dillybar... but I might end up seeing it when it comes to demop (watch it for cheap) or livingston when i can watch it for free.

then i'll give you a review... I just think (from the previews, and reviews I've read) that it's going to be cheesy.

trezhamayn
08-12-2006, 15:14 PM
i think i already mentioned above that I had no interest in seeing this garbage...it's all just a ploy to take your money

BamaChE04
08-12-2006, 17:31 PM
Maybe Oliver stone should have waited another 20 years before doing this movie.... .

I agree with you on that. Making a movie about 9/11 this soon just seems tasteless and inconsiderate to the families who lost loved ones. Since I haven't seen it, I can't comment on how political they made it, but that seems to be the trend in movies recently. I do hope they at least left that part out.

leagle
08-12-2006, 19:54 PM
..it's all just a ploy to take your money

That describes every movie ever made. They aren't made to lose money.

teach11
08-12-2006, 23:18 PM
I am no movie critic, but I will give my opinion of this film.
It is not about the terrorist attacks of 9/11 or the war on terrorism. It is about the strength of the human spirit and family bonds and the will to survive. The World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, is the setting of the movie, but I don't think it's meant to be considered the subject of the movie.
I think some critics are questioning the romanticizing of such a terrible time in our recent history, and I thought I would leave the theatre feeling that way, as well. The movie is romantic in a literary sense, so I think I understand where those critics stand. However, what I felt leaving the theatre was respect, grief, and pride for the lost and their families as well as the survivors. I think the movie pays respectful tribute to all who lost their lives on that day.
There is an obvious absence of political agenda, unless I missed an undertone, which is entirely possible since I don't know much about Stone. There is one character who mutters a line about avenging this act, which actually seemed a little incongruous to me. The movie is unapologetically sentimental, portraying predictable emotions of people who have undergone tremendous tragedy and disaster. If that's your definition of "cheesy," mm, don't go! You won't like it.
I believe that the ability to find the good in every situation is a positive trait, and this movie celebrates that trait. It's not the best movie I've ever seen, but I liked it and am glad I saw it. It reminded me of the unity that swelled in our nation immediately after the attacks.

BOHNTR
08-13-2006, 00:44 AM
I am no movie critic, but I will give my opinion of this film.
It is not about the terrorist attacks of 9/11 or the war on terrorism. It is about the strength of the human spirit and family bonds and the will to survive. The World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, is the setting of the movie, but I don't think it's meant to be considered the subject of the movie.
I think some critics are questioning the romanticizing of such a terrible time in our recent history, and I thought I would leave the theatre feeling that way, as well. The movie is romantic in a literary sense, so I think I understand where those critics stand. However, what I felt leaving the theatre was respect, grief, and pride for the lost and their families as well as the survivors. I think the movie pays respectful tribute to all who lost their lives on that day.
There is an obvious absence of political agenda, unless I missed an undertone, which is entirely possible since I don't know much about Stone. There is one character who mutters a line about avenging this act, which actually seemed a little incongruous to me. The movie is unapologetically sentimental, portraying predictable emotions of people who have undergone tremendous tragedy and disaster. If that's your definition of "cheesy," mm, don't go! You won't like it.
I believe that the ability to find the good in every situation is a positive trait, and this movie celebrates that trait. It's not the best movie I've ever seen, but I liked it and am glad I saw it. It reminded me of the unity that swelled in our nation immediately after the attacks.
What she said. I'm sure trez and mmcd have spent money on worse films. Overall, pretty good movie.

mmcd3182
08-13-2006, 03:59 AM
What she said. I'm sure trez and mmcd have spent money on worse films. Overall, pretty good movie.


Yeah... (speaking for myself) most recently... Aeon Flux, King Kong, and the Passion of the Christ

but I can't really say those are worse, since I haven't seen the WTC movie, but I felt I spent/wasted my money on those.

Aeon Flux wasn't THAT bad... I'm just trying to think of the movies I've seen over the last few years that really stuck out...

But everybody likes different movies. I just don't think this will stand out as a top-notch film when people look back on it.

Thanks for your review teach11

BOHNTR
08-13-2006, 04:57 AM
I just don't think this will stand out as a top-notch film when people look back on it.
You're probably right.

tidechick
08-13-2006, 11:56 AM
Going to see WTC movie today. I've seen the previews but I really don't know what to expect.

scootergal
08-13-2006, 12:54 PM
We typically don't go to a lot of movies but wait for PPV or HBO, so I doubt seriously that I will go see this movie. I'll read some of your reviews and decide from there whether I will watch it at all.

demopolite
08-14-2006, 08:06 AM
I will not be going to see the movie.

I am a bit bothered by the fact that what is depicted in the movie is....well....not true. It's based on a true story, but the fact is that the man who went into the rubble to save two Port Authority workers was a former EMT who heard about what was happening in Tribeca, rushed down there, and put his own life at risk. HE was not acting in the line of duty. HE was not doing his job. HE was a hero.

However, Stone decides to replace that very real man and the very real things he did with some cop who doesn't exist. I'm not paying Oliver Stone and Nick Cage to make propaganda for the NYPD.

Also, I don't need to be reminded that there is a war going on. I'm trying to plan a trip abroad (flying into London, bizarrely enough), and I would say that for the average American civilian, you are never more aware of what's going on in the world than when you are planning to leave the safe cocoon of America.

mmcd3182
08-14-2006, 08:09 AM
I will not be going to see the movie.
I am a bit bothered by the fact that what is depicted in the movie is....well....not true. It's based on a true story, but the fact is that the man who went into the rubble to save two Port Authority workers was a former EMT who heard about what was happening in Tribeca, rushed down there, and put his own life at risk. HE was not acting in the line of duty. HE was not doing his job. HE was a hero.
However, Stone decides to replace that very real man and the very real things he did with some cop who doesn't exist. I'm not paying Oliver Stone and Nick Cage to make propaganda for the NYPD.
Also, I don't need to be reminded that there is a war going on. I'm trying to plan a trip abroad (flying into London, bizarrely enough), and I would say that for the average American civilian, you are never more aware of what's going on in the world than when you are planning to leave the safe cocoon of America.

I didn't know the story about the character. Interesting.

Wow. good luck with your trip. I see ... in your future... a long wait before you get on the plane... and get ready to buy your toothpaste and shampoo in the UK... lol.

demopolite
08-14-2006, 08:16 AM
I didn't know the story about the character. Interesting.

Wow. good luck with your trip. I see ... in your future... a long wait before you get on the plane... and get ready to buy your toothpaste and shampoo in the UK... lol.

Here's a story on the changes that were made to the movie:
http://www.slate.com/id/2147350/

I did see this morning that the threat level in the UK has been decreased from severe to "merely" high. That means that I, my one very small carry-on, and my 4-oz. bottle of non-medicinal liquid can now fly into Heathrow. Do they sell Crest in the U.K.?

0ldman
08-14-2006, 09:59 AM
I can see not using the real people, its not been long enough for the families.

I still muttered some words I won't repeat here when I saw the preview the first time... Something about greedy, opportunistic, maternal fornicators.

I'm still waiting for the Katrina movie... aaaaaargh.

leagle
08-20-2006, 00:02 AM
I just saw WTC tonight, and I have to say it was an incredible movie. I would recommend it to anyone. As for the factual inconsistencies in the Slate article, I think the author of that article may have an ax to grind, because I didn't see many of her complaints on the screen. The EMT in question was clearly portrayed, and the cop was in fact a real person. Both of the real life main characters appear in the final scene. It was more true to life than any "factual" movie I can recall. Oliver Stone did a remarkable job directing it. Leagles' opinion: 3 thumbs up. A classic.

bamaraised
08-20-2006, 00:46 AM
I just saw WTC tonight, and I have to say it was an incredible movie. I would recommend it to anyone. As for the factual inconsistencies in the Slate article, I think the author of that article may have an ax to grind, because I didn't see many of her complaints on the screen. The EMT in question was clearly portrayed, and the cop was in fact a real person. Both of the real life main characters appear in the final scene. It was more true to life than any "factual" movie I can recall. Oliver Stone did a remarkable job directing it. Leagles' opinion: 3 thumbs up. A classic.
I saw WTC when it first arrived in Prattville. I was expecting a movie more focused on the actual act of terrorism. I was totally wrong. This movie was based on the true story of two police officers who survived the implosion of the Twin Towers. It highlighted the key points in their lives and portrayed many others who's lives where changed after the attack, including the former EMT. To me, the movie was very heart touching and emotional. I am not one to cry over a movie because I am constantly exposed to the grim reality of real life in my line of work, but I balled my eyes out. I say go see it!
Never forget!

mmcd3182
08-20-2006, 10:08 AM
I just saw WTC tonight, and I have to say it was an incredible movie. I would recommend it to anyone. As for the factual inconsistencies in the Slate article, I think the author of that article may have an ax to grind, because I didn't see many of her complaints on the screen. The EMT in question was clearly portrayed, and the cop was in fact a real person. Both of the real life main characters appear in the final scene. It was more true to life than any "factual" movie I can recall. Oliver Stone did a remarkable job directing it. Leagles' opinion: 3 thumbs up. A classic.


hey! you got a 3rd thumb??

interesting review.

and a final question: was nick cage "able to act his way out a nutsack" ?? lol

uwa_amanda
08-20-2006, 14:49 PM
I saw WTC when it first arrived in Prattville. I was expecting a movie more focused on the actual act of terrorism. I was totally wrong. This movie was based on the true story of two police officers who survived the implosion of the Twin Towers. It highlighted the key points in their lives and portrayed many others who's lives where changed after the attack, including the former EMT. To me, the movie was very heart touching and emotional. I am not one to cry over a movie because I am constantly exposed to the grim reality of real life in my line of work, but I balled my eyes out. I say go see it!
Never forget!

My husband and I saw it last night in Tuscaloosa. It was really good. Niclolas Cage, in my opinion, did a good job in this one. A lot of you have forgotten about the Marine that decides, after praying, to go down there to help them out. He served two tours in Iraq after 9/11. But I have never heard so much *sniff, sniff* in a movie since Titanic. When my husband and I got in the car, he cut it on and the clock said "9:11". No lie...But all in all, it was a pretty good movie. I would definitely go see it again.

leagle
08-20-2006, 16:53 PM
We were in the same theatre- the 6:55 showing in #15.